Norman, his son Jeff and i flew up to Minneapolis in 1979. Norm wanted to introduce his son to a small little company called Sweko Research and Develpment Co. I had been buying stock in the company due to Normans encouragement and i thought a trip to Minneapolis would be very educational. What i found was a little store front company specializing in refridgeration. I also met H.P. Chalmers that weekend who was not only touting Swenko but Electronic Missiles and Communications. That was the start of me getting involved with those two companies-all because of Norman. It was a wild ride for a few years and very interesting. Norman loved getting involved with different companies and enjoyed talking about them. We had many laughs over those days later on in life. It was a great learning experience and i know Jeff remembers those days well.